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<LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</A>></LI>
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On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:40:12 -0700 (PDT)
Adam Wiggins<adam#angel,com> wrote:
> Probably you need two different methods availible to players. One
> is to hold someone based on brute strength, the other based on
> pointing a weapon at them. Thus:
> > hold bubba
> You grab Bubba from behind and pin his arms to his sides.
> Bubba tries to draw his sword, but you prevent him.
> Bubba tries to run north, but you barely prevent him.
> > say gimmie some help you guys!!
> Boffo grabs Bubba and helps you hold him.
> Buffy grabs Bubba and helps you hold him.
> Biffo says, "Take him to the jail."
> > drag bubba north
> You begin trying to drag Bubba north.
> Boffo begins trying to drag Bubba north.
> Buffy begins trying to drag Bubba north.
> You, Boffo, and Buffy drag Bubba north.
> or:
> > threaten bubba with knife
> You hold your knife to Bubba's throat.
> > say Your money or your life!
> Bubba tries to wiggle free.
> You press your knife into Bubba's throat, drawing blood.
> Bubba freezes in place.
> The second could be a bit more difficult to implement; I suppose the
> threatener would have to define a threshold of tollerance,
> especially with more deadly weapons (ie, guns) so that the server
> will know what is "too far", and what it should do (shoot them in
> the leg, shoot them in the torso, shoot them in the head).
> If some good mechanisms like this were to be put in place, I tend to
> think that PKing would go down quite a bit, since there would be
> alternate ways to deal with people you want to force to do
> something.
First thought:
I happen to be a fan of the Frank Miller Batmans comics. A
particular frame in one (my copy is at home and thus difficult to
reference right now), has Batman holding a blindfolded perp dangling
head down off the side of a tall building. He then removes the
blindfold. The caption text deals with the delight at the subsequent
scream.
Methods of persuasion vary. Given methods of restraint, and __no__
other legal or justice systems or support for such, I expect that
players will prove excessively inventive in creating their own justice
systems. Heck. I can think of a score of really down right *nasty*
little tricks to try right now if restraint is possible.
IIRC (ie read about 'em on relevant user web pages) UOL and M59 both
have restraint-type spells ("hold" spells). General application
currently seems to be as a method of ensuring a mark is an easy
target, but there's already discussion of implementing real jails and
other justice forms.
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<LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00237" HREF="msg00237.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 29 Apr 1998, 20:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00265" HREF="msg00265.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 30 Apr 1998, 11:50 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00276" HREF="msg00276.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00288" HREF="msg00288.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 30 Apr 1998, 23:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00382" HREF="msg00382.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 19:50 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00361" HREF="msg00361.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 11:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00396" HREF="msg00396.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 05 May 1998, 13:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00614" HREF="msg00614.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00240" HREF="msg00240.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 29 Apr 1998, 21:05 GMT
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