<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Caballah [was Character development] --> <!--X-From-R13: [nevna Uevssvgu <telcubaNvnrui.ay> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:48:16 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Marcel-1.45-0413111426-bc8Ky&5#gryphon,knoware.nl --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 3530F458.D05DCB26#freehold,crocodile.org --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Caballah [was Character development]</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00145.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00147.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00141.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00147.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00146">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00146">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00146">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Caballah [was Character development]</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: Mud Dev Mailing list <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Caballah [was Character development]</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Marian Griffith <<A HREF="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:14:26 +0100 (BST)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <URL:<A HREF="news:local.muddev">news:local.muddev</A>> on Sun 12 Apr, Vadim Tkachenko wrote: > Alex Oren wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:26:10 PST8PDT, Vadim Tkachenko wrote: > > } Like, can the Caballist be a Paladin? [...] and if it > > } happens, say, that the one who is a Caballist will try to perform some > > } good (positive-aligned) actions, the backfire will be tremendous, but > > } anyway one would be able to do that. > > Why is there a problem with Caballists performing "good (positive-aligned)" > > actions? > > The Caballah is the Jewish mysticism. It tries to explain the working > > of the universe from the Jewish religion POV and, on some levels, pro- > > vide means to influence it. Would you say Physics is inherently evil? > Consider it my mistake. I had no idea about the origins of Caballah (and > what it is all about) and somehow the name itself was idiomatically > linked to evil things in the place I'm from (its pronunciation resembles > something else, which is definitely evil). A caballist is commonly meant as 'a follower of the Cabal', not a scholar of the Caballah. The Cabal being the leaders of a secret but highly power- full group typically deriving their powers from demonic or satanic sources and thus a caballist is somebody who uses evil sources to gain power. In this respect a caballist is indeed the anti-thesis of the paladdin. I can not remember which book first coined the Cabal but certainly somebody else on this list knows. Marian -- Yes - at last - You. I Choose you. Out of all the world, out of all the seeking, I have found you, young sister of my heart! You are mine and I am yours - and never again will there be loneliness ... Rolan Choosing Talia, Arrows of the Queen, by Mercedes Lackey </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00147" HREF="msg00147.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Caballah [was Character development]</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Jon A. 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Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 12:03 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00131" HREF="msg00131.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character development [was Re: ]</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sat 11 Apr 1998, 09:08 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00133" HREF="msg00133.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character development [was Re: ]</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 11 Apr 1998, 16:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00145" HREF="msg00145.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character development [was Re: ]</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 10:48 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>