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<LI><em>From</em>: Marian Griffith &lt;<A HREF="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</A>&gt;</LI>
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In &lt;URL:<A  HREF="news:local.muddev">news:local.muddev</A>&gt; on Sun 12 Apr, Vadim Tkachenko wrote:
&gt; Alex Oren wrote:

&gt; &gt; On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:26:10 PST8PDT, Vadim Tkachenko wrote:

&gt; &gt; } Like, can the Caballist be a Paladin? [...] and if it
&gt; &gt; } happens, say, that the one who is a Caballist will try to perform some
&gt; &gt; } good (positive-aligned) actions, the backfire will be tremendous, but
&gt; &gt; } anyway one would be able to do that.

&gt; &gt; Why is there a problem with Caballists performing "good (positive-aligned)"
&gt; &gt; actions?
&gt; &gt; The Caballah is the Jewish mysticism.  It tries to explain the working
&gt; &gt; of the universe from the Jewish religion POV and, on some levels, pro-
&gt; &gt; vide means to influence it.  Would you say Physics is inherently evil?

&gt; Consider it my mistake. I had no idea about the origins of Caballah (and
&gt; what it is all about) and somehow the name itself was idiomatically
&gt; linked to evil things in the place I'm from (its pronunciation resembles
&gt; something else, which is definitely evil).

A caballist is commonly meant as 'a follower of the Cabal',  not a scholar
of the Caballah. The Cabal being the leaders of a secret but highly power-
full group typically deriving their powers from demonic or satanic sources
and thus a caballist  is somebody who uses evil sources to gain power.  In
this respect a caballist is indeed the anti-thesis of the paladdin.  I can
not remember which book first coined the Cabal but certainly somebody else
on this list knows.

Marian
-- 
Yes - at last - You. I Choose you. Out of all the world,
out of all the seeking, I have found you, young sister of
my heart! You are mine and I am yours - and never again
will there be loneliness ...

Rolan Choosing Talia,
Arrows of the Queen, by Mercedes Lackey


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00138" HREF="msg00138.html">OT: Caballah [was Character development]</A></strong>, 
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Sun 12 Apr 1998, 08:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00139" HREF="msg00139.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  OT: Caballah [was Character development]</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sun 12 Apr 1998, 09:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00142" HREF="msg00142.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  OT: Caballah [was Character development]</A></strong>, 
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sun 12 Apr 1998, 17:46 GMT
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Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sun 12 Apr 1998, 17:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00146" HREF="msg00146.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  OT: Caballah [was Character development]</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 10:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00147" HREF="msg00147.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  OT: Caballah [was Character development]</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 12:03 GMT
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