<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] GRUMPS --> <!--X-From-R13: znqqbtNorfg.pbz --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 06:05:00 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199804100604.XAA08840#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] GRUMPS</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:maddog#best,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00117.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00119.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00154.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00107.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00118">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00118">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00118">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] GRUMPS</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] GRUMPS</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:maddog#best,com">maddog#best,com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:04:26 -0700 (PDT)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> J C Lawrence wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:10:03 PST8PDT > maddog <maddog#best,com> wrote: > > > > colins sprinkled around some other muds. Unfortunately I got some > > of the MOO colins going by making available my version called > > madborg. It wasn't until I tried to interface madborg to a database > > server that I realized he had a fatal flaw. > Care to expoand on this? I, and I'm sure several other here, are > interested in the flaws and your experiences. I made madborg available for download and posted on how to hack colins to create a madborg that would work in MOO or Cold. The MOO/Cold madborg was stationary and everything worked fine. But for the db project I wanted madborg to be mobile so I turned on his room check code. As soon as I did that, I found that saying "hello" would case him to core dump. I also see that I tested him on MUX and apparently I was having the same problem. I probably would have continued to work on him except for three reasons: -I had to use cc instead of gcc or do a lot more code changes -the code was difficult for me to understand in places and too many things were hardcoded -I discovered Joe Strout's python bot and that became the new madborg I think that julia/colins was a really fun bot in its time. But I don't recommend that anyone today work with the old code. frank </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00117.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership (was a fruitful exchange on classlessness in r.g.m.admin)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00119.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unreal</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00154.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Seductions of Sim: Policy as a Simulation</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00107.html">MAGE 2 MAGE v. 0.88</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00118"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00118"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Personality modelling</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00166" HREF="msg00166.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Personality modelling</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 15 Apr 1998, 01:14 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00134" HREF="msg00134.html">META: Web futures and the demise of MUD civilisation as we know it.</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sat 11 Apr 1998, 22:04 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00122" HREF="msg00122.html">Seductions of Sim: Policy as a Simulation</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 10 Apr 1998, 17:55 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00154" HREF="msg00154.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Seductions of Sim: Policy as a Simulation</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 20:54 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00118" HREF="msg00118.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] GRUMPS</A></strong>, maddog <a href="mailto:maddog#best,com">maddog#best,com</a>, Fri 10 Apr 1998, 06:05 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00107" HREF="msg00107.html">MAGE 2 MAGE v. 0.88</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 09 Apr 1998, 23:40 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00106" HREF="msg00106.html">a fruitful exchange on classlessness in r.g.m.admin</A></strong>, Cimri <a href="mailto:cimri1#gte,net">cimri1#gte,net</a>, Thu 09 Apr 1998, 23:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00113" HREF="msg00113.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] a fruitful exchange on classlessness in r.g.m.admin</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 10 Apr 1998, 01:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00117" HREF="msg00117.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership (was a fruitful exchange on classlessness in r.g.m.admin)</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Fri 10 Apr 1998, 05:52 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>